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DanL2010

Ontario by Rail

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created 45 weeks ago
updated 1 day ago
Big map with even bigger intercity transit in the GTHA. Also megamap which includes Waterloo-Kitchner area, Ottawa, London (ON), Niagara Region, Thunder Bay and so much more Field Notes: - Difference between the TTC 800-series lines I'm proposing compared to the current 900-series is that the 800-series (e.g. 801 Crosstown) is that they will have dedicated lanes for them to get across the city faster and that they will have service everyday (not just on weekdays) - Since ION is proposed to be an intercity service here, both Guelph Transit and the GRT will need to adopt PRESTO or a united transit pass system in order to have seamless integration with all of the cities they operate with - The current Stouffville line here is proposed to Uxbridge, which will replace GO Transit line 71 from Uxbridge to Union Station - All LRT systems included in this map I believe should all operate on standard gauge rails with the same rolling stock for all of them so it can be easier for the local operators to find parts and operate new routes on the same tracks - All BRTs will have service every 15-minutes during day hours - Any BRT systems will be able to run on LRT Right-Of-Ways - All QuickLink LRTs will have a tap-on tap-off system similar to GO Transit (fares will be same as standard LRT fares except to pearson) - The QuickLink service operating to Pearson will have an increased fare compared to standard operating LRTs ($2 increase compared to standard LRTs & buses) if travelling to Pearson - Line 2 (Toronto) will operate as normal (every 3-5 minutes) while Line 2A will operate every 8-12 minutes - Line 2A service north of Finch Ave will operate as an above grade service similar to the Line 3 Scarborough RT (R.I.P) - VIVA BRT service with the plus (VIVA Brown & VIVA Green) will have rush hour service only and will be replaced with local bus services during off-peak hours - I will be assuming that in this timeline, Toronto allows other transit agencies to operate freely in the city without restrictions (Toronto does not let any non-TTC agency to move people within the city currently) - The TTC Streetcars will turn into a LRT-like service, with dedicated right-of-ways on all routes shown on the map - Routes not on map will still have dedicated right-of-way but will act more as a local service than express - The last 3 stops of VIVA Blue B will have new roads constructed - TTC Route 803B will have service 6AM-9PM every 20 minutes - The NRT Red and Purple lines will both have service every 5-minutes on-peak and 15-minutes off peak (with 30/35-minute service in the night - I'm planning on adding the 900-series TTC express buses in the future onto the map (although some of them will be replaced with the LRT systems, subways and 800-series express buses already on those roads - All vehicles with the "Tram" designation will use Toronto Gauge Bombardier Flexity Outlook streetcars (the same ones used for the TTC Streetcar system, but in Standard Gauge to allow easy use of traditional train tracks) - The TTC streetcars in Mississauga will be built by Metrolinx and operated by the TTC; with the assumption that MiWay will eventually take over the operations in Mississauga - VIA Rail services in the US are considered Amtrak services (similar to how the Maple leaf train runs) - ALTO train services remain operated by the same company regardless of country it is operating in - VIA Rail restored services (such as the Cayuga-Regional) will operate through existing infrastructure and try to get stations back into operation (with emphasis on heritage stations that were built back during the Credit Valley Railway days) - VIA service on Cayuga-Regional will have 2-3 trains/day per way, with options to increase service depending on demand - Any BRT/local bus transit options will not have any fare premiums (unlike how QuickLink operates) - Due to the inter-regional connectivity and many different systems from various cities, Metrolinx will standardize all fares and will encourage the use of PRESTO instead of region-specific cards (such as what the GRT or London Transit is doing) - Intra-provincial trains such as the Cayuga-Regional, Northlander, etc. will also use PRESTO cards and have a fare system similar to GO Transit trains (they will operate with a similar fare structure and act as an extension of GO) - VIA Rail's "The Intercity" route will have 2-way, all day hourly (or bi-hourly) service - The Intercity will also use the PRESTO card (including in the US - Detroit and Buffalo) - PRESTO usage in the US will give the user a standardized ticket for Amtrak, while tapping again in Canada will generate a standardized ticket for Canada (similar to how the maple leaf operates) - The Intercity will upgrade any/all existing tracks to a double-tracked system to allow for 2-way, all day service - All rolling stock orders will be pooled into a provincial bid to encourage more companies to compete to win a major contract - TTC streetcar service is intentionally split in Mississauga and in Toronto due to Toronto's TTC-gauge system (TTC Mississauga will use standard gauge) - TTC streetcars in Toronto using standard gauge train track right-of-ways will be upgraded to be dual-gauge to allow for easier land usage - VIA Rail/ALTO train services will introduce pre-clearance in specific hubs (Niagara Falls NY, Niagara Falls ON, Detroit, London, Sarnia, Windsor, and Toronto Union station to allow for smoother train service and less interruptions - Rural express buses (e.g. Highway 10-Hurontario Express & Orangeville Express) will be a hourly bus during peak hours and bi-hourly service out-of-peak operated by GO Transit and will align with train service at Palgrave GO and with the Hurontario LRT - Highway 10-Hurontario Express & Orangeville Express will operate a staggered schedule (Orangeville with 30 minute service at peak) - All trains to Cambridge Central will be in the terminus for at least 10 minutes to allow for people to transfer into the other train services - Historical railways including the Waterloo Central Railway and the Credit Valley Central Railway will use different train sets from VIA or GO Transit but will still use PRESTO for payments
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Score
0
Ridership
2.71B
Cost
$ 271B
Stations
2,722
Lines
146
Modes
8
Length
5,238 km
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Ontario by Rail by
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updated at 2026-05-15T14:39:36.528Z
Big map with even bigger intercity transit in the GTHA. Also megamap which includes Waterloo-Kitchner area, Ottawa, London (ON), Niagara Region, Thunder Bay and so much more Field Notes: - Difference between the TTC 800-series lines I'm proposing compared to the current 900-series is that the 800-series (e.g. 801 Crosstown) is that they will have dedicated lanes for them to get across the city faster and that they will have service everyday (not just on weekdays) - Since ION is proposed to be an intercity service here, both Guelph Transit and the GRT will need to adopt PRESTO or a united transit pass system in order to have seamless integration with all of the cities they operate with - The current Stouffville line here is proposed to Uxbridge, which will replace GO Transit line 71 from Uxbridge to Union Station - All LRT systems included in this map I believe should all operate on standard gauge rails with the same rolling stock for all of them so it can be easier for the local operators to find parts and operate new routes on the same tracks - All BRTs will have service every 15-minutes during day hours - Any BRT systems will be able to run on LRT Right-Of-Ways - All QuickLink LRTs will have a tap-on tap-off system similar to GO Transit (fares will be same as standard LRT fares except to pearson) - The QuickLink service operating to Pearson will have an increased fare compared to standard operating LRTs ($2 increase compared to standard LRTs & buses) if travelling to Pearson - Line 2 (Toronto) will operate as normal (every 3-5 minutes) while Line 2A will operate every 8-12 minutes - Line 2A service north of Finch Ave will operate as an above grade service similar to the Line 3 Scarborough RT (R.I.P) - VIVA BRT service with the plus (VIVA Brown & VIVA Green) will have rush hour service only and will be replaced with local bus services during off-peak hours - I will be assuming that in this timeline, Toronto allows other transit agencies to operate freely in the city without restrictions (Toronto does not let any non-TTC agency to move people within the city currently) - The TTC Streetcars will turn into a LRT-like service, with dedicated right-of-ways on all routes shown on the map - Routes not on map will still have dedicated right-of-way but will act more as a local service than express - The last 3 stops of VIVA Blue B will have new roads constructed - TTC Route 803B will have service 6AM-9PM every 20 minutes - The NRT Red and Purple lines will both have service every 5-minutes on-peak and 15-minutes off peak (with 30/35-minute service in the night - I'm planning on adding the 900-series TTC express buses in the future onto the map (although some of them will be replaced with the LRT systems, subways and 800-series express buses already on those roads - All vehicles with the "Tram" designation will use Toronto Gauge Bombardier Flexity Outlook streetcars (the same ones used for the TTC Streetcar system, but in Standard Gauge to allow easy use of traditional train tracks) - The TTC streetcars in Mississauga will be built by Metrolinx and operated by the TTC; with the assumption that MiWay will eventually take over the operations in Mississauga - VIA Rail services in the US are considered Amtrak services (similar to how the Maple leaf train runs) - ALTO train services remain operated by the same company regardless of country it is operating in - VIA Rail restored services (such as the Cayuga-Regional) will operate through existing infrastructure and try to get stations back into operation (with emphasis on heritage stations that were built back during the Credit Valley Railway days) - VIA service on Cayuga-Regional will have 2-3 trains/day per way, with options to increase service depending on demand - Any BRT/local bus transit options will not have any fare premiums (unlike how QuickLink operates) - Due to the inter-regional connectivity and many different systems from various cities, Metrolinx will standardize all fares and will encourage the use of PRESTO instead of region-specific cards (such as what the GRT or London Transit is doing) - Intra-provincial trains such as the Cayuga-Regional, Northlander, etc. will also use PRESTO cards and have a fare system similar to GO Transit trains (they will operate with a similar fare structure and act as an extension of GO) - VIA Rail's "The Intercity" route will have 2-way, all day hourly (or bi-hourly) service - The Intercity will also use the PRESTO card (including in the US - Detroit and Buffalo) - PRESTO usage in the US will give the user a standardized ticket for Amtrak, while tapping again in Canada will generate a standardized ticket for Canada (similar to how the maple leaf operates) - The Intercity will upgrade any/all existing tracks to a double-tracked system to allow for 2-way, all day service - All rolling stock orders will be pooled into a provincial bid to encourage more companies to compete to win a major contract - TTC streetcar service is intentionally split in Mississauga and in Toronto due to Toronto's TTC-gauge system (TTC Mississauga will use standard gauge) - TTC streetcars in Toronto using standard gauge train track right-of-ways will be upgraded to be dual-gauge to allow for easier land usage - VIA Rail/ALTO train services will introduce pre-clearance in specific hubs (Niagara Falls NY, Niagara Falls ON, Detroit, London, Sarnia, Windsor, and Toronto Union station to allow for smoother train service and less interruptions - Rural express buses (e.g. Highway 10-Hurontario Express & Orangeville Express) will be a hourly bus during peak hours and bi-hourly service out-of-peak operated by GO Transit and will align with train service at Palgrave GO and with the Hurontario LRT - Highway 10-Hurontario Express & Orangeville Express will operate a staggered schedule (Orangeville with 30 minute service at peak) - All trains to Cambridge Central will be in the terminus for at least 10 minutes to allow for people to transfer into the other train services - Historical railways including the Waterloo Central Railway and the Credit Valley Central Railway will use different train sets from VIA or GO Transit but will still use PRESTO for payments
Map type: local | Total track length: 3255 miles | Center coordinate: 43.7563, -79.5701 |
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